Comments on: Measuring Mutual fund Returns https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/measuring-mutual-fund-returns/ Markets, Trading, and Investing Simplified. Sun, 26 Jan 2025 03:27:08 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.5 By: Karthik Rangappa https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/measuring-mutual-fund-returns/#comment-554405 Sun, 26 Jan 2025 03:27:08 +0000 https://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=8447#comment-554405 In reply to Goutham.

Thanks for letting is know, Goutham! Happy learning 🙂

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By: Goutham https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/measuring-mutual-fund-returns/#comment-554374 Sat, 25 Jan 2025 09:33:57 +0000 https://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=8447#comment-554374 Hi Sir, I came back from your Mutual Funds Series video to learn about XIRR calculation. This was very interesting and really impressed as to how you have articulated this. Will definitely read all you chapters here.

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By: Karthik Rangappa https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/measuring-mutual-fund-returns/#comment-546796 Fri, 29 Nov 2024 03:19:28 +0000 https://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=8447#comment-546796 In reply to Ashwin Porwal.

Checking, thanks.

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By: Ashwin Porwal https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/measuring-mutual-fund-returns/#comment-545892 Thu, 28 Nov 2024 12:03:51 +0000 https://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=8447#comment-545892 You forgot to multiply by 100 in absolute return

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By: Karthik Rangappa https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/measuring-mutual-fund-returns/#comment-535162 Sat, 12 Oct 2024 19:42:36 +0000 https://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=8447#comment-535162 In reply to Rehan Kudchikar.

I’ve explained this in detail in the Fundamental chapter, please do check that.

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By: Rehan Kudchikar https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/measuring-mutual-fund-returns/#comment-535151 Sat, 12 Oct 2024 19:20:45 +0000 https://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=8447#comment-535151 Hi Karthik,
Can you please explain the breakup of the present value of money that you explained in your second module?
Really need to understand that concept in depth.

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By: Karthik Rangappa https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/measuring-mutual-fund-returns/#comment-532519 Tue, 03 Sep 2024 04:30:39 +0000 https://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=8447#comment-532519 In reply to Mahesh.

For these specs, you will have to ask the AMC itself. What we get is the end of day NAV.

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By: Mahesh https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/measuring-mutual-fund-returns/#comment-532479 Mon, 02 Sep 2024 06:55:11 +0000 https://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=8447#comment-532479 Hi Team,

XIRR we won’t be able to figure out what’s the compounded profit, any case we get to know how our profits in the mutual funds gets reinvested in coin zerodha Application? Example how often and how much is reinvested ?

This looks like black box for me

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By: Karthik Rangappa https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/measuring-mutual-fund-returns/#comment-530970 Thu, 22 Aug 2024 01:39:31 +0000 https://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=8447#comment-530970 In reply to Yash Aher.

For SIPs, you can use XIRR returns, a modified version of CAGR.

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By: Yash Aher https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/measuring-mutual-fund-returns/#comment-530915 Wed, 21 Aug 2024 12:32:27 +0000 https://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=8447#comment-530915 Mutual fund returns are typically expressed in terms of CAGR, which works well for lump sum investments. However, I’m interested in understanding the returns for SIP investments. Could you suggest the best way to calculate or evaluate SIP returns?

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By: Karthik Rangappa https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/measuring-mutual-fund-returns/#comment-525217 Sat, 22 Jun 2024 05:46:41 +0000 https://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=8447#comment-525217 In reply to Balakrishnan Malattiri.

Yes, I do agree with what you are saying. For a multi year investment, returns has to be measured in terms of growth i.e. CAGR or XIRR.

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By: Balakrishnan Malattiri https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/measuring-mutual-fund-returns/#comment-525192 Fri, 21 Jun 2024 18:18:36 +0000 https://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=8447#comment-525192 Dear Sir,

Thank you for your detailed explanation. However, I respectfully disagree with your approach. Evaluating returns on an annual basis provides a standardized way to compare different investments, regardless of the time period. This is crucial for making informed decisions, especially to avoid prematurely disposing of mutual funds due to perceived low short-term absolute returns.

An annualized rate gives a clearer picture of the investment’s performance and potential, ensuring better alignment with long-term financial goals. Additionally, in conjunction with absolute and XIRR, I will closely monitor medium-term rate variations to make informed decisions on whether to stay invested or dispose of the mutual funds.

Best regards
Bala

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By: Karthik Rangappa https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/measuring-mutual-fund-returns/#comment-525155 Fri, 21 Jun 2024 05:43:19 +0000 https://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=8447#comment-525155 In reply to Balakrishnan Malattiri.

These are essentially two different types of return measurement. Lets say you travel from Point A to Point B. If I ask you what was your speed, then there are several ways in which you can answer –

1) You can breakdown the speed for every kilometer you traveled. For example you travelled at 60Kmph from 1st to 2nd KM, 70Kmph from 2nd to 3rd, 50kmph between 3rd to 4th etc – this is like the absolute return.

2) You can give me an average speed – this is like the XIRR

Now when it comes to multi year investments, I’m not really interested in knowing what is the return each year, I’d rather know what is the avg growth rate over these years. This way, I only deal with 1 return and base my investment decision.

But when we are looking at a period less than 1, there is no question of ‘multi year avg growth rate’, as the period under consideration is less than 1. Hence, I’d ok to take the absolute return.

Hope this helps.

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By: Balakrishnan Malattiri https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/measuring-mutual-fund-returns/#comment-525120 Thu, 20 Jun 2024 19:16:32 +0000 https://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=8447#comment-525120 Dear Sir, I think I did not express my question correctly. I will post it again differently.

“The table above helps us understand the different types of investment and the respective type of return we should calculate. For example, we should calculate the absolute return for a lumpsum investment which is less than one year. Likewise, we should look at the XIRR return for a SIP which is older than a year.”

The above text is copied from your notes on this page. You are advising us to calculate absolute return (not XIRR) for an investment (lumpsum or SIP) less than one year. I just wanted to know the reason behind it. Can you please explain it?
Thanks
Bala

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By: Karthik Rangappa https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/measuring-mutual-fund-returns/#comment-524845 Wed, 19 Jun 2024 04:36:10 +0000 https://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=8447#comment-524845 In reply to Balakrishnan M.

Absolute return is not annualized, Bala. Thats why its called ‘absolute’, to indicate that its all encompassing.

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