Comments on: Calendar Spreads https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/calendar-spreads/ Markets, Trading, and Investing Simplified. Wed, 15 Jan 2025 04:57:52 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.5 By: Karthik Rangappa https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/calendar-spreads/#comment-553656 Wed, 15 Jan 2025 04:57:52 +0000 https://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=5173#comment-553656 In reply to Gurunadha rao.

You may have not had sufficient margins for this, hence the square off. You do have the right to ask your broker for an explanation.

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By: Gurunadha rao https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/calendar-spreads/#comment-553593 Tue, 14 Jan 2025 11:58:17 +0000 https://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=5173#comment-553593 My self buy monthly pe 23000 and sell weekly 23000 pe broker square off my sell position due to market volatility and leave my buy position and market goes reverse which I suffer heavy lose what is the solution for this

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By: Karthik Rangappa https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/calendar-spreads/#comment-552916 Tue, 07 Jan 2025 02:26:08 +0000 https://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=5173#comment-552916 In reply to Swarnava Addya.

Swarnava, you’ve identified the right skills needed to pull of good arbitrge trading opportunities (stats, maths)..but you also need programing skills to go along with this. I’d suggest you get this going. Without programming skills, it wont be possible to do arbitrage.

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By: Swarnava Addya https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/calendar-spreads/#comment-552872 Mon, 06 Jan 2025 10:22:41 +0000 https://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=5173#comment-552872 Sir,

I have conducted a self-analysis to determine which trading system best aligns with my mindset and long-term goals. My analysis indicates that Arbitrage trading system is the most suitable system for me.

I am eager to dedicate significant time and effort to studying,researching, developing, and implementing arbitrage strategies in commodities,stocks,options,futures.

Could you please guide me on the all specific domains and topics (anything even if not from finance, may be math,calculus,stat and cs) within arbitrage that I should prioritize to maximize my results?

Thanks,
Swarnava

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By: Karthik Rangappa https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/calendar-spreads/#comment-548518 Sat, 30 Nov 2024 03:42:36 +0000 https://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=5173#comment-548518 In reply to Shivansh Agarwal.

You can get that on Kite or via Kite Connect APIs. You can download to excel. Do speak to our support desk for this.

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By: Shivansh Agarwal https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/calendar-spreads/#comment-547649 Fri, 29 Nov 2024 18:14:56 +0000 https://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=5173#comment-547649 where to get continuous future data in excel

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By: Karthik Rangappa https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/calendar-spreads/#comment-546778 Fri, 29 Nov 2024 03:00:10 +0000 https://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=5173#comment-546778 In reply to Ajit Singh Bisht.

You can switch to continuous charts for this. I’d suggest you call the support desk and check once.

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By: Ajit Singh Bisht https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/calendar-spreads/#comment-544586 Wed, 27 Nov 2024 16:08:09 +0000 https://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=5173#comment-544586 Hi sir
Historical data of stocks can be downloaded from chart iq option available in kite application but how I can downloaded the historcoal data of future contracts ?

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By: Karthik Rangappa https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/calendar-spreads/#comment-544270 Wed, 27 Nov 2024 12:26:03 +0000 https://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=5173#comment-544270 In reply to Swarnava Addya.

Sure, you seem to have factored in the 2 big risks. Add to that taxes and costs, and figure if it makes sense. Wishing you the best 🙂

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By: Swarnava Addya https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/calendar-spreads/#comment-542333 Tue, 26 Nov 2024 12:49:04 +0000 https://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=5173#comment-542333 Curious after reading this chapter,

There is an idea sparked in my mind, sharing with you

If I have 5 lac :-

If I invest that 5 lac rupees in a government bond with an yield of 7.5%.

and pledge the instrument with zerodha, I will get a cash collateral margin.

So it can be used to trade futures.

so I am getting 7.5% risk free return from the gsec annually.

if you take an example as of today.

Tech mahindra january futures are trading at 1764 rs (short) 1 lot

And Tech mahindra december futures are trading at 1754 rs (long) 1 lot

the lot size is 600

so if we multiply (10*600) = 6000 rs is the profit.

the margin required is 3,71,000 rs, fund will be blocked = around 37000rs

so there are risks associated with it :-

1) Execution risk = both the orders has to be executed same time to get the price difference and also has to be exited at same time

2) there can be a slippage and charges let’s take it 1000rs.

I am currently doing this as paper trade in sensibull.

planning to exit this before 1 day to expiry.

Your Thoughts on about the planning and the (worst-case-scenario) risks associated with the trade ?

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By: Karthik Rangappa https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/calendar-spreads/#comment-538006 Fri, 22 Nov 2024 00:45:56 +0000 https://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=5173#comment-538006 In reply to Shivansh Agarwal.

I dont know if its worth the risk. But since this more than usual, I’d be tempted to place a trade (but this is just me being curious and adventurous). You can choose to track the trade closely as well.

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By: Shivansh Agarwal https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/calendar-spreads/#comment-537961 Thu, 21 Nov 2024 07:20:51 +0000 https://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=5173#comment-537961 I was looking at GOLD dec futures and feb2025 futures, the upper range for the spread is around 530 but as of now the spread between the two is around 750. But as we are just a week away from the expiry of dec contract. Is it worth to take the risk as prices mostly diverge near expiry.

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By: Karthik Rangappa https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/calendar-spreads/#comment-537941 Thu, 21 Nov 2024 02:46:42 +0000 https://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=5173#comment-537941 In reply to Shivansh Agarwal.

Yes, if the spread does not converge, then it will return a loss, but that is the trade here. You expect the spreads to move. You can use continuous data to get a sense of historical spread movement, and then use that as a peg to estimate the current spread and figure if the current spread is worthy of taking a trade or not.

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By: Shivansh Agarwal https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/calendar-spreads/#comment-537913 Wed, 20 Nov 2024 19:10:34 +0000 https://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=5173#comment-537913 In the example above, you use continuous data for both futures contracts. However, most opportunities tend to arise near the month’s end. Since this is continuous data, trades might close within a few days. In real-time trading, however, how should one handle these contracts when they are about to expire? For example, if we consider the current scenario, futures of November and December for a stock, say ABC, and an opportunity arises a day before expiry or on the expiry day or even a week before expiry, should we take the trade or not? If the spread does not return to its range by expiry, it could result in a loss.

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By: Karthik Rangappa https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/calendar-spreads/#comment-537582 Thu, 14 Nov 2024 05:14:02 +0000 https://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=5173#comment-537582 In reply to Saravana Thiagarajan K.

Yes, limit orders are good for these things :)….but there is nothing much you can do about execution risk.

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