Comments on: Hedging with Futures https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/hedging-futures/ Markets, Trading, and Investing Simplified. Mon, 03 Feb 2025 08:30:23 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.4.5 By: Saurabh https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/hedging-futures/#comment-554925 Mon, 03 Feb 2025 08:30:23 +0000 http://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=1654#comment-554925 Sir Answer my few more question because I am confused.
1. If I not Exit the positions What will happen?
2. If market goes down & down even after the futures expiry, then what we have to do? Do we have to hedge again?
3. What I have to do to hedge the positions? I know I have to sell in the futures. But till what time?

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By: Karthik Rangappa https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/hedging-futures/#comment-554890 Mon, 03 Feb 2025 04:51:28 +0000 http://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=1654#comment-554890 In reply to Saurabh.

This is possible, but its an unhedged position right? Not really hedged.

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By: Saurabh https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/hedging-futures/#comment-554787 Sat, 01 Feb 2025 09:50:08 +0000 http://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=1654#comment-554787 Sir I am bit confused with the statement that ‘hedging does not neither make profit nor loss’. Suppose in the above example when we short nifty position that contract have an expiry on which it will expire, and we have to take action before it expires so squaring off the position would make me profitable and what if just after few days the market started upward movement resulting my portfolio to move upward so, after few days/weeks/months my portfolio come at the levels they were before. Isn’t it going to be profitable?
Or even if the market going down for next few days/weeks/months, I would simply take another short position and before expiry I would square off that generating the profit so and so until the market moves in the upward direction. Which in net will generate me a profit.

I hope you get my question.

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By: Karthik Rangappa https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/hedging-futures/#comment-534551 Thu, 03 Oct 2024 02:16:38 +0000 http://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=1654#comment-534551 In reply to Roopam Rana.

Check this, Roopam – https://zerodha.com/z-connect/varsity/us-fed-rate-cut-how-it-affects-traders-and-investors

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By: Roopam Rana https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/hedging-futures/#comment-534515 Wed, 02 Oct 2024 16:27:49 +0000 http://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=1654#comment-534515 ]]> Sir can you also make a course on US fed rates and major global events that play role in volatility but are not easily understood by normal individuals.
I usually find it difficult to grasp what fed rate cuts are usually talked about in the market and how to make a view on market with that info.
And Thank you so much for your valuable lessons.😇

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By: Karthik Rangappa https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/hedging-futures/#comment-534283 Sat, 28 Sep 2024 05:58:17 +0000 http://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=1654#comment-534283 In reply to overcomewinner.

You can exit the sell first so that you free up the margins.

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By: overcomewinner https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/hedging-futures/#comment-534232 Fri, 27 Sep 2024 17:42:44 +0000 http://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=1654#comment-534232 which option i should exit first buy or sell in nifty option hedging trading ?

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By: Karthik Rangappa https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/hedging-futures/#comment-534146 Thu, 26 Sep 2024 04:11:32 +0000 http://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=1654#comment-534146 In reply to Prem.

There is nothing like safe, Prem. It all depends on your risk appetite. But that said, bull spreads are hedged.

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By: Prem https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/hedging-futures/#comment-534124 Wed, 25 Sep 2024 18:02:21 +0000 http://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=1654#comment-534124 How to hedge with regards to Options? Is it safe to say the strategies like bull spreads are known as hedging?

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By: Karthik Rangappa https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/hedging-futures/#comment-530313 Thu, 15 Aug 2024 07:03:58 +0000 http://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=1654#comment-530313 In reply to varun.

You can’t equate the two. Knowledge is gained through experience, money is made by taking risks 🙂

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By: varun https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/hedging-futures/#comment-530264 Wed, 14 Aug 2024 16:56:48 +0000 http://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=1654#comment-530264 Hello sir ..my ques is when will you become a billionare? because u r full of knowledge..and if u become one pls send me few bucks ..thanks

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By: Karthik Rangappa https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/hedging-futures/#comment-522832 Sun, 26 May 2024 03:45:22 +0000 http://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=1654#comment-522832 In reply to Aagam.

Yes, the steps listed seems correct.

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By: Aagam https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/hedging-futures/#comment-522795 Sat, 25 May 2024 15:10:22 +0000 http://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=1654#comment-522795 Please check if I am on a right track

To hedge a portfolio of stocks we need to follow the following steps
A) Calculate individual stock beta
Done.
B)Calculate individual weightage of each stock in the portfolio
=Current Value of particular stock investment / Total Portfolio Current Value
C)Estimate the weighted beta of each stock
=Beta*Answer(B)
D)Sum up the weighted beta to get the portfolio beta
Done
E)Multiply the portfolio beta with Portfolio value to get the hedge value
=Weighted Beta*Total Portfolio Current Value
F)Divide the hedge value by Nifty Contract Value to get the number of lots
Done
G)Short the required number of lots in the futures market
Done

Please check my question number B & E
As i have taken current value of all, While calculation instead of investment value.

Please confirm karthik. Am i on a right track?

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By: Karthik Rangappa https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/hedging-futures/#comment-522775 Sat, 25 May 2024 04:50:58 +0000 http://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=1654#comment-522775 In reply to Aagam.

Thats right, you can take in the current market value.

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By: Aagam https://zerodha.com/varsity/chapter/hedging-futures/#comment-522743 Fri, 24 May 2024 15:41:57 +0000 http://zerodha.com/varsity/?post_type=chapter&p=1654#comment-522743 Hi Karthik,

Thank you for sharing this great peice of knowledge,
I have a little doubt, when there is uncertainity,

If the portfolio is in positve MTM, Don’t you think the hedge should be on current value rather than invested value.

Please give your opinion and enlighten us.

Thanks
Aagam

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